Happy Birthday Andy! Hot Dogs, Mark Waid and One-And-Done Comics

In this episode, Mike and Andy run down four more issues and decide whether they are one and dones, or keep on readings (or whatever). Andy also describes his birthday weekend and we talk a variety of things we thought were interesting as usual. Boy were we wrong! We talk about hot dog eating contests, kaiju, Green Arrow, Talos and Mike Wierengo, and Mark Waid's World's Finest. Tell a friend about the show!

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I'll just have to make certain I am talking with a verbose volume.

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I'm with the show.

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So how's your week been otherwise?

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Well, better than last week. Let me tell you a little birthday story.

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Yes, getting older is always a good start for any story, but I know this was going to be a good.

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Here's the the harp's ringing as we go into a flashback.

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Delete, delete, delete, delete.

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So a couple weeks ago I went to.

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The ear, nose, throat, doctor. Cause I was having some ear issues.

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So I got tested and they found out I had some reduced hearing.

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Ah, and not good, just in my right ear, although I mean a little in my left, but mostly in my right, like, way bad in my right and my left is like pretty good so.

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Which I kind of knew was happening. But that's kind of why I got it tested and I've had this ringing in my ear for like 8 months.

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Eight months. Maybe you should have this look right.

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Probably should have it looked at.

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And so.

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The thing he said was, well, let's are you claustrophobic?

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Said oh crap, I said no, I'm not. And so he said, OK, well, you, you're going to need an MRI.

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So that we can determine whether it's a tumor or not on your eardrum, you know whether that's the problem or not cause it. Then we'd have to treat it differently, obviously, than just a hearing aid or something.

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Yep. And I said OK and so.

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Last Thursday, day before my birthday and in actuality.

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I went in for an MRI.

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It's an older machine, so it takes a little longer.

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But they, you know, you get in this gown because you can't have anything metal. They take your rings, you can't wear glasses. They you have to answer these questions 1000 times whether you have shrapnel in your eye or you've ever been hit by a bullet or BB gun, you know.

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No metal you know. Do you have hip replacements? Do you have anything, you know? Yeah, right. Pins.

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And I don't. It's like, OK, so I got an MRI done.

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And they use this dye.

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To see things better, you know, they they take one set of images without the dye and then one set of images with the dye and then they compare the two.

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You know it is uncomfortable, but I've had worse tests than that. You know, I get to lay down in this coffin for like.

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You know 30 minutes while they loud noises go on around me and I have earplugs on, which in itself I could see why people freak out, but I was good and I've had this. I've had this done once before, not on my.

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But on my stomach, you know, like around 2000.

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After you swallowed all those babies.

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Right. Yes. Yeah, that was painful. They shot right out of my stomach.

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Is it there?

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Yeah, right. To them right. Here we go.

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Yeah, because it's a large magnet basically taking pictures.

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And so.

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I'm done with the test.

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And I go home and I have a normal.

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Pre birthday day.

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And I wake up the next day.

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And I'm sicker than a dog, and I am throwing up, and I got a fever.

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Oh jeez.

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Come to find out I'm allergic to the dye they used in my head.

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For the MRI, so I had a bad reaction to the MRI on my brain.

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And so I spent my birthday just throwing up and having a fever. And, you know, it lasted pretty much because my birthday was on a Friday. It lasted pretty much till Sunday. I thought I was going to die, but I I kind of figured out what it was because.

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Back in 2000, I had a similar reaction, but I didn't associate it with the MRI because I was already having a lot of those symptoms back then. You know, that's why I was getting an MRI. So this time, I'm like, OK, I just this is similar to what was going on.

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Or and figure out what it was and you know, talk to the doctor and there's not much they can do, you know, goes through your kidneys. So you have to work it out, you know, drink lots of water and.

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And all that stuff. My funny story is, you know, it's my birthday and I'm.

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In the middle of the night, going to the mighty toilet and throwing up.

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And everyone else is asleep. I mean, my wife, my wife, is is aware of what's going on and she's watching over me and stuff like that. So I'm throwing up in the in the toilet.

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And for some reason.

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After every.

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Time I threw up, I said, well, happy birthday, Andy.

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Happy birthday. Well, happy birthday, Andy. And you know, I had a fever, so I was probably delusional a bit, but at the time, I'm maybe trying to distract myself. I don't know. I laugh at it later.

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Seems like the right thing to say.

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And I thought this would be a good story, but you know, for the for the next hour and a half, I'm throwing up.

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Oh, happy birthday.

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Ohh my gosh, is this what turning 52 is like?

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I'm like, crazy, stupid and.

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It's like ohh my body is breaking down and my mind is apparently too.

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You're listening too, and This is why.

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I love comics.

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Please elaborate.

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And welcome to another.

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Episode of and This is why I.

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Love comics medical questions.

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Question Mark, I don't know.

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Lately it's been.

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That way, like do we really like comics?

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Right. Welcome to another episode. I'm Andy.

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And then I'm like.

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And we're back again to talk about lots of things growing up being 5252 and just getting older. My friend Mike's with me here and he.

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Also is gonna be 52 in about a month, so.

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Will be the new 52 all the.

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New 52 weekly series 52 was really good.

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With grant Morrison.

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Yeah. So we're here. Welcome to the show.

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We are old men talking old stories, reading new and old comics.

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And we talked about whatever we.

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Want to do?

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And if you want us to talk about something.

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Let us know.

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I remember one time one of my older brothers.

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Was violently ill.

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And justice, emptying out every part of his intestinal system.

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Vertically up and out and.

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I just remember him like in between. Just like you could hear through the door. You just hear this. Just pain. This like, and then just, you know. And it was only silent it because there was enough stuff coming through that it was blocking.

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The vocal cords.

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And then.

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After that you get this like weak voice.

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See help me. Oh man.

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It's like like, what could we do? I was like, Pat, you on the back? I don't know. But just that that pathetic like, help me and you're thinking of the like aliens movies, you know?

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Yeah, look.

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At the doorway, there's a hand slowly creeping out.

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Reaching out for something?

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Fingers underneath it. Ohh man. So as the old song goes, it's my birthday. I can die if I want to.

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Yes, absolutely.

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I felt like that and I'm not a I'm not a quiet throw upper. I'm like a full body heavy throw upper like my body just shuts.

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Shunts everything away from it itself so.

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Yeah, legs kicking and twitching. It's all over. Go wherever you want to go. Hands. Have you ever seen somebody pull a fish onto a boat? That's what your body.

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Yeah, right. Just over. I'm doing the work. I'm doing the worm.

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It looks like.

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Just doing that though, that was pretty much you.

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That's me.

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Yeah. And then yeah, just.

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I just had, like the flu for two days or something like that, just really worn down and couldn't do anything. So it was a really bummer birthday.

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But it was my birthday. So, you know, I made it to 52. That's all I gotta say.

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Keeps on giving.

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I survived. I survived that, though, yeah.

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So yeah, that was pretty funny.

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Ohh man.

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You know, it's like the Marilyn Monroe, except totally opposite.

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Porcelain mercy. Yeah, I I do remember one time we had somebody who worked at a meat processing plant. That's, you know.

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He got me the job later in life.

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When I learned the value of a good college education kind of meat. Yeah. Meat processing plant. Oh, yeah. Stories that could be told.

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Sausages and.

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But because he worked at this processing plant, one of the main things.

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That they produced was hot dogs.

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And this guy had unlimited access to hot dogs.

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Unlimited power. No kid. You know, it's like if you had a genie, it could make one wish. Would it be for unlimited? What? And apparently this guy said hot dogs.

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And the genie took it literal.

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Yep, you get unlimited hot dog.

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And wound up so a bunch of.

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Us, you know, realized he had unlimited hot dogs, and we decided let's try.

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A hot dog eating contest on the 4th of July.

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And I made it to like 8 or.

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Nine. Wow, that's.

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And this is when metabolism was OK. Metabolism.

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Yeah. And two other buddies were really into.

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Died. They're no longer with us.

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Ohh yeah, they were buried with their wieners.

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Now they.

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They got into the teens and I remember I think it was like 1516.

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And then one of them's, like, going like he got, like, a good third of the way through this other and all of a sudden he just heard.

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Him go.

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And it's like oh.

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And it was like, stand by me, you know that the story within the story. And as soon as he made it, he turned, made two paces towards the.

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Ohh yeah.

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Bathroom. And just like every hot dog came up and it was like he was just puking up nickel shapes. Man. There was just and it just like it hit. And then the rest of.

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Us like oh, and.

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Right.

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It was like everybody and there was like, I think four or five of us that were in on this thing and all of us were just expelling and it was.

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Like hot dogs.

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Then it was another contest. Who could throw up the wound?

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Yeah, that was. Yeah. See, who could find it? Yeah, sort it out. Who could fill up that bucket first? No, growing up. Did you ever have the proverbial bucket? Slash bowl? The one that was used for popcorn. The one that was used to, you know, for getting sick. The one that was used just for like.

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We gotta, you know, change the fish tank. So we had to put the fish in in this one did.

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You have one of those.

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We did have a what we called the bucket.

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When we couldn't make it to the bathroom, like from the bed or whatever, when we were sick and they knew we were sick, I do remember that, and we certainly had a popcorn bowl. But it wasn't the same bowl. Luckily. So yeah, we had a A designated.

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Bucket and I don't think it was an actual bucket. I think it was a bowl, but.

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We had the catch all. Literally every.

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It's like you needed it for this. Yep, we'll just wash it out. Really good.

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It's like if you wash it out really good.

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Oh man, let's hope.

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And I mean, the good news is I did get the results back and it's not a tumor.

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So I just have bad hearing.

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So this is.

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Happy birthday, Abby.

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Yeah, you get hearing aid, so I'll have a hearing aid. I don't know. Maybe in a week or so, but.

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I've already tried one on and they're really small and inconspicuous and really cool, and it's got Bluetooth and it's super science, you know, we'll, we'll see what I feel, you know, after a couple weeks of it, but it will be nice to be able to hear things and not go.

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Thank you.

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Huh. What'd you say?

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Can you talk into my left ear please?

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Our place of employment, they've got these vents. It's an old building, but they have all these vents going through the ceiling and they they just have, like, those old tiny cones pointing air down and distributing it through the room.

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But it's such a an old machine and it's so loud that every single person's office has one, and they all are incredibly loud.

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So there's some of the stuff that we talk about that gets slightly confidential.

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And inevitably, somebody's standing in the doorway telling you this, and then they go, like, so. I was thinking what we should do about this is and all you're hearing.

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Is like.

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Of that machine and for the life of me, more often than not, I'm.

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It's going, yeah, yeah.

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Nod. Nod.

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Yep. And then just smile like and then you do that, that smile and shake your head at the same time. That basically says, like, I agree with you. But I'm also shaking my head in case it's something that I'm not supposed to agree to. So it kind of covers all the bases at once.

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It was interesting taking a hearing test after not having one for such a long time.

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You know, you hear this beep and you, you know, just tell them that you hear it and then you know they're doing other beeps, but you can't hear it.

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You know, it's like.

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Hey, no, I'm supposed to be saying Yep, right now and I don't hear a thing. And you know, after three or four when you're like.

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OK, I might have heard that one.

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Yeah, phantom beeping. When was the last time? Was it elementary school?

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Right, yeah.

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Probably it was.

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I don't recall doing it as an adult, really. I no reason to really, really at all.

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So probably yeah. Elementary school. Something like that. And I I know. I I listened to a lot of headphones as a teenager especially I used it as a sleep aid. Going to bed. So it's very possible that I was just this loud rock music.

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And you know, eventually wears on you. But.

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Right, your brain but didn't write your brain. It actually right here hearing you your ear canal, apparently.

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Yeah, I mean I I worked in a factory for a couple years, but nothing too loud.

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And uh.

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Not not typical factory. And then I worked in insurance, so that's certainly not allowed at all. I mean, I like they said, you know, some of it's just age, some of it could be medication, you know.

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And what was interesting was.

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Seeing your brain, I finally had. I finally had proof that I had one or have one. Sorry and.

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It's not just rolling around in there. They were able to find it.

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Right.

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Great. And it was, you know, it was pretty normal looking, they said so.

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There was a couple of spots that could tell it was interesting that I had that I suffer from migraines because there was a spot on there that was a different color and they said that's probably from migraines. Do you suffer from them? I said, oh, yeah. So that was interesting that they could tell on my brain.

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A little unnerving. I don't think I could do the claustrophobic MRI especially. I know they have new ones now.

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That you can.

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Stand up and or have a seat.

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Yeah, yeah. And some that are just open.

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Kind of.

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Rolled heads around your head.

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So you're not being slid into that very confining.

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Tube. Yeah, I told myself I'm not claustrophobic. And to make sure that I didn't freak out, I just kept my eyes closed.

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And luckily enough, like there was an air flow, so it didn't feel like still air and stuff like that. So it in my mind I was just, you know, lounging on the beach somewhere with the wind.

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That's a hard pass for me. I don't know. Even if I had my eyes closed in my head, I'd still know that that's is, like, right outside that I couldn't move my arms. I couldn't.

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Do they strap you down at all or is?

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They do not. You set your head in, you set your head in a spot. You know, like they have a little head area and tell you not to move. And you know they trust you not to move. They don't strap you down or anything like that. But, I mean, they don't want you to freak out. You could leave at any time. You could just say, hey, I want out.

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Because they can hear you. But.

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I was gonna ask is there like an emergency like ejector seat. It spits, yell like a bullet.

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No, but if they do hand you a a a caller on your hand, you know, and you get, you can squeeze it and they'll say what's wrong. And you can tell them, you know, Get Me Out of here and they'll just send you out because I'm sure they deal with freaking out of people every day. I'm a pro. I've had two.

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You get some frequent flyer miles for.

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That right, I think I'm done having them though. If I have an allergic reaction to the chemicals, I think that was my last.

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It's amazing cause like some of that stuff I know like.

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They would have, I.

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Think it was like a barium was one.

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Of the old like chemicals that people.

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Yeah, well, liquids, yeah.

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Yeah. And then that would flow through your whole system.

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And it's like, man, some of the stuff like, that's that's radioactive, you know? That's Mary. It's not something you can just easily get your hands.

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All right.

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They can detect you with that for a.

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Week. Yeah, your kids will come out with gamma radiation.

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And green skin secret origin.

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Yeah. What happened? Well, my dad.

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Had an MRI, an MRI.

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Or radioactive substances? I mean, like there's been stranger Origins.

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I was going.

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Back through some of the like Golden Age characters and a lot of them in the public domain.

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Most of them maybe not all but a good portion of them make zero sense as far as.

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Their origins go they're like the.

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The golden age.

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Here of characters.

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And I just remember, like, you know, some of them were just like, he got taught by birds how to fly. Yeah. And it's like, huh? That's it. OK, one.

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How did he pick up a language that would be birds language? And then how are birds raising a human? And I mean it was like.

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Granted, in simpler times, as they say.

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And he just wanted to jump right ahead to get to the story of this guy can do this. You don't have to worry about how he just he can.

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But it was still.

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Super ridiculous, right? Yeah. I was, like, raised by, I think it was like Eagles or vultures or something.

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Black condors.

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I think that's it. I think it was.

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By Condor.

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Yeah, that's how his origin was.

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It's like Tarzan being raised by apes. It's like.

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There's a little slight.

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There's some plausibility, at least they're mammals.

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Yeah, but birds like, legitimately and just because you know, it's like, and he learned how to fly his result, it's like.

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So it was in you all along.

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Yeah, but I will also say when I was terribly young, I had have to say maybe first or second grade I had. I had visions of trying to fly.

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Amongst the many, many options, one of them was I asked my mom what?

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Does fire not burn?

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And he said, well, bricks like a fireplace. And I said OK, that's great.

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Just like a mighty Python, what floats and what doesn't float?

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Wood. So he was thinking obviously, like a fireplace and she had no idea. I was like, OK, I'm going to buy a bunch of bricks.

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And make a jet.

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Pack and because then the fire won't burn these bricks. And that was what I was going to do. So I had a drawing.

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Had it.

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All like.

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You know how many bricks it was going to take and I'm thinking like, OK, I'll just get a bunch.

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Of bricks and make a jet pack out of.

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Makes a lot of sense by.

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Today's standards, but.

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And then the other was, I think it was the same summer, but my goal was to train myself.

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Starts to fly.

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And the stairway that led to our basement, I was going to use that as a my training grounds for flying and the entire intent was that I would start on the very first step and jump off of that over summer vacation.

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And then after, like maybe three or four days of doing that, I'd go to the second step and jump off of that and land safely.

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On the ground.

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And then eventually I was going to work my way that by the end of summer, I'd be jumping from the top step and floating down.

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To the bottom of the stairs, and then I'd be able to go to school and family.

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And so that way I would show up to school. It's this new kid that, you know, like, what did you guys do?

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Over the summer and then I.

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Would show him by flying.

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Sounds like a secret.

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Origin to be.

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Big, big smile. So much sense of being raised by by birds. So yeah, why not?

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Right. Like 3 hospital visits later.

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That didn't work. Didn't work at all, that somebody could have told me. Yeah.

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Lock my arm in three places.

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Yeah. It's kind of like a Uncle Rico moment and Napoleon Dynamite. Yeah, there's.

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I wish doesn't work. Somebody should have told.

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That Uncle Rico comes out with that ice bag. He's.

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Like I could have told you.

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What are we doing today? Well, we're doing.

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Called. Won and done. Yeah.

00:26:04 Speaker 3

Now we're going to try and discuss. We each pick two issues of something we are trying out and then we decide whether we want to start or actually we decide whether we want to read another one.

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After that, from the same series like is it good enough to move on and collect the series? And we've both picked out two issues of something, two separate issues of something, and we'll talk about them on the show eventually, of course.

00:26:38 Speaker 3

I'm not sure we're there yet where we can talk about it. I got the sniffles. We're trying to get sound quality back up there so.

00:26:47 Speaker 3

You know, we'll do what we.

00:26:50 Speaker 1

Yeah, it's like we've gone.

00:26:51 Speaker 2

All the way back to the beginning, we're back.

00:26:53 Speaker 1

To episode 1 status.

00:26:55 Speaker 3

Did you get new microphones again?

00:26:58 Speaker 1

Again, still not working.

00:26:58 Speaker 3

OK.

00:27:00 Speaker 3

Right. Thanks for some emails and stuff telling us that we are fun to listen to.

00:27:07 Speaker 3

And also that we repeat ourselves a lot, we know we're old we.

00:27:13 Speaker 3

It's part of our stick.

00:27:13 Speaker 1

Still dimension give us some people call it dimension, we call it our yeah.

00:27:20 Speaker 3

We call it shilling.

00:27:22 Speaker 1

Yep, when you don't have a reminder of what you talked about before, you put like a checklist together. It's like, OK, we've talked about that, don't reference this again.

00:27:31 Speaker 3

Right. I've actually started to listen to and our episodes and take some notes about what we discussed when, and I'll send you a copy when I'm when I'm almost done or done, it'll be a little while.

00:27:44

Yeah, they used.

00:27:45 Speaker 1

To do that in comics all the time, it was like that was an Avengers #73. It's like what happened to Iron Man, you know, it was like to catch up on Iron Man.

00:27:56 Speaker 1

The invisible iron and it was.

00:27:56 Speaker 3

Woman annual 3.

00:27:58 Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, it was pretty cool. I always appreciated those like it kind of helped give a little bit of continuity and tied the whole place together a little bit.

00:28:07 Speaker 3

And if you're new to the show, this is what we do.

00:28:11 Speaker 3

We hope you have fun.

00:28:13 Speaker 3

Do you have any funny stories to tell Mike?

00:28:16 Speaker 1

Apparently that MRI took a little bit more out of you than you thought. The magnet took your sense of direction.

00:28:21 Speaker 1

Kind of.

00:28:23 Speaker 3

I'm exhausted.

00:28:27 Speaker 1

Ohh, nothing really hilarious this.

00:28:31 Speaker 3

It's throwing up and wishing yourself a happy birthday.

00:28:35 Speaker 2

That can't top that one.

00:28:38 Speaker 3

And you shouldn't.

00:28:40 Speaker 1

Yeah, that one. OK, I'll leave you with that. But my gosh, I can only.

00:28:45 Speaker 1

Sympathize at best, but mercy. Yeah, we.

00:28:49 Speaker 3

Only get better from there. You know, I I joked with my wife during that I said, you know.

00:28:53 Speaker 3

I've had worse birthdays, not many, but.

00:28:59 Speaker 3

I've had worse.

00:29:03 Speaker 1

As long as you didn't.

00:29:04 Speaker 1

Say you know anything like you know.

00:29:07 Speaker 1

At least this time, it wasn't your cooking or anything like that. Will get you into trouble.

00:29:13 Speaker 1

I was like, oh man, I'm just thinking about the kids.

00:29:20 Speaker 1

Now, at any point did your life flash before you during that whole sequence?

00:29:25 Speaker 3

Absolutely. You know, I'd be lying if I said I didn't think I was dying at one point and.

00:29:33 Speaker 3

And thinking this is how I'm coming for you, Elizabeth. You know what? You know, holding my chest. Sanford and Son reference. Let's let's I I want to save this for maybe a a separate episode, but I do want to talk about how.

00:29:38

OK.

00:29:52 Speaker 3

As we get older.

00:29:54 Speaker 3

Death becomes more of a possibility.

00:29:59 Speaker 2

It's always a possibility.

00:30:01 Speaker 3

And uh.

00:30:01 Speaker 1

Wasn't that what one of our friends said?

00:30:05 Speaker 1

About driving and then he took his hands off the wheel.

00:30:09 Speaker 3

Right, yeah.

00:30:10 Speaker 2

It's a very.

00:30:11 Speaker 1

Strong possibility and then just took his hands off the wheel as as he was driving and turned out like.

00:30:18 Speaker 1

We are going to crash. Yeah, it's not the time to kind of make.

00:30:22 Speaker 1

A joke like that.

00:30:23 Speaker 3

Right. Well, I do remember one time we were driving you and I in a big Cadillac that we called it the boat.

00:30:31 Speaker 3

And for some reason, we picked the worst weather snow day to go see a movie on 28th St. here in in Kentwood and.

00:30:42 Speaker 3

We were driving down one of the busiest roads and one of the worst weather conditions ever and we did a 360 in the road.

00:30:53 Speaker 1

You'd think that that would have been like, you know, a vehicle of that size. It's like, I think was as stable as it could come, but.

00:31:02 Speaker 3

No, I mean we I still felt safe like if we were gonna hit anything, it was gonna hurt them not.

00:31:07 Speaker 3

Us, yeah.

00:31:10 Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean like from the front of the car to the where the passengers of the car were were completely different time zones.

00:31:17 Speaker 3

Right. Yeah. At least 1/4 mile.

00:31:21 Speaker 1

When when there were indicator lights on the front corners of the car and people, some might remember these things. When the hood was so big it actually had like indicator lights to tell you your signal was turning one way or the other.

00:31:36 Speaker 1

That's a big car.

00:31:37 Speaker 3

Oh, I thought it was so airplanes wouldn't try to land on them.

00:31:41 Speaker 1

Yeah, it was easier for the satellites to, you know, keep track of things too, you know.

00:31:49 Speaker 1

It was like.

00:31:49 Speaker 4

Poop. Poop. Poop. Poop.

00:31:51 Speaker 1

You know, man, those things are just a massive vehicle.

00:31:56 Speaker 3

I don't know what movie we were dying to see, though.

00:31:59 Speaker 1

It was probably nothing of a movie. It was probably something where it was like.

00:32:05 Speaker 1

You know, you know Space Hunter in 3D.

00:32:10 Speaker 3

Adventures in babysitting? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

00:32:13 Speaker 1

That girl had a Thor helmet. It's gotta.

00:32:15 Speaker 2

Be comic book related.

00:32:17 Speaker 1

I I remember thinking like ohh this is about as close as we're ever going to get to a Thor movie. I'm going to throw this back at you. Speaking of Thor and previous iterations, remember the was it the.

00:32:29 Speaker 1

Trial of the incredible.

00:32:31 Speaker 1

Hulk, the TV movie and.

00:32:33 Speaker 1

They were obviously a lot of these had like what they call those backdoor pilots or something.

00:32:39 Speaker 1

Where it was like they were trying to make a Thor TV show, and they also had a daredevil episode and the same one I.

00:32:46 Speaker 1

Think was that was like.

00:32:46 Speaker 3

Yeah, it was.

00:32:47 Speaker 3

The trial and I I recently saw that episode.

00:32:50 Speaker 1

That Thor, I remember going like it was already kind of a struggle to kind of go like, well, the Hulk doesn't do Hulk things, but.

00:33:00 Speaker 1

Maybe they'll do Thor, right? And it's like everything they could have done.

00:33:04 Speaker 1

Wrong. They did wrong with it though.

00:33:07 Speaker 3

You know, it was the 70s.

00:33:10 Speaker 1

There was a lot of things, but that theme song at the end of the movie over the every episode I that is forever.

00:33:18 Speaker 1

Synonymous with depression or anything bad going down, it's like just listen to the the Hulk theme song and it just kind of compliments anything. It's like, you know, like you could have been, you know, having a birthday throwing up.

00:33:38 Speaker 1

And you can just hear that dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung.

00:33:43 Speaker 3

I would openly weep every episode.

00:33:48 Speaker 1

The best scene?

00:33:50 Speaker 1

And when, even as kids watching this is.

00:33:53 Speaker 1

Like what is going on?

00:33:56 Speaker 1

The villain hops on a helicopter in the helicopter is all of like 10 feet up in the air, and both the Hulk and Thor are right next to it on the ground going and just screaming at it because of how mad they are that the helicopter got out. It's like they could even as humans jumped up and grabbed the helicopter.

00:34:16 Speaker 1

But I'm thinking like the Hulk, who can leap Miles, Thor, who can throw his hammer and causes him to fly as a result.

00:34:24 Speaker 1

These are two characters could have easily like a helicopter, no problem. Even Thor could have just thrown his hammer at it.

00:34:33 Speaker 1

But and this thing they.

00:34:33 Speaker 1

Just stood there yelling like.

00:34:35 Speaker 1

Ah, I can't believe it. He's getting it away.

00:34:39 Speaker 1

That was it. Ohh.

00:34:41 Speaker 1

Terrible, terrible, terrible. No way. And then that was kind of it for me. Like when I realized they're never going to be able to make a good superhero movie.

00:34:52 Speaker 1

And then computer animation came into the equation and changed.

00:34:57 Speaker 1

Quite a bit.

00:34:58 Speaker 3

Right. What are they going to do now with AI?

00:35:01 Speaker 1

Ohh man.

00:35:02 Speaker 3

And the writers strike, they're just going to let the computers run it.

00:35:06 Speaker 1

Might as well. Might as well now. Have you ever read? Do you remember reading American flag?

00:35:12 Speaker 1

Right, of course.

00:35:14 Speaker 1

And how freakish is that? Because I mean the whole premise of how it chickens American flag written, I think in the mid 80s, wasn't it or yeah, it was mid 80s.

00:35:26 Speaker 1

Was that he wound up having to join the quasi police force because he was a Hollywood actor and got replaced by.

00:35:37 Speaker 1

Basically, artificial intelligence. They had enough to basically now what's called a deep.

00:35:43 Speaker 1

And they had enough footage. They didn't need him anymore to act. They had.

00:35:49 Speaker 1

A generated version of them.

00:35:52 Speaker 1

It's like that was in the 80s and now it's like, yeah, yeah, we're kind of doing that. We're, you know, it doesn't matter if that Peter Cushing is gone, we can replace him. We got a CGI deep fake Carrie Fisher. Yeah. We want a younger version of her. Certainly. OK. Here you go.

00:36:10 Speaker 1

Do you want, you know, young Luke Skywalker?

00:36:12 Speaker 1

By all means.

00:36:14 Speaker 1

And I remember, you know, in a less than popular movie Sky captain and all world of tomorrow, Laurence Olivier apparently showed up. And, I mean, he had been gone for quite a while at that point. And so.

00:36:31 Speaker 1

Yeah, it's just kind of startling to think about, like, how right Howard Shaiken was and how things had been changing pretty much every rapidly over the last maybe.

00:36:46 Speaker 1

Five years, 10 years at most.

00:36:48 Speaker 3

It'll be interesting where it goes after this. You know the next decade.

00:36:54 Speaker 3

Whether we start worshipping our mechanical overlords or because it could really go either way, flip a coin.

00:37:04 Speaker 3

Something bad's going to happen, and then people will have to make a decision on whether they do.

00:37:10 Speaker 3

Oh man, are we down today or is it just me? I think I've shown.

00:37:16 Speaker 3

Think it's me.

00:37:16 Speaker 1

A little bit of both. Yeah. It's going to be an interesting time. We'll see how it all plays out. We'll actually see it plays out. So getting back to the one and.

00:37:30 Speaker 1

Done last time, we both kind of picked random issues.

00:37:35 Speaker 1

I think I picked like issue one of a couple of different titles just to kind of give us a how does this start and would we continue to read on my end, I had picked out a bunch from that stack of conference I got recently. I went to a place called Galactic.

00:37:55 Speaker 1

Gregs Gregs Gregs out of Valparaiso IN and they had a good 10 to 15 long boxes of just Dollar Comics.

00:38:06 Speaker 1

They were in alphabetical order for more or less. Basically, you know, first letter is what determined what area it was put in. So Superman was mixed in with Supreme, which was mixed in with Savage Dragon all, but they were all in the *****. So I made it a little easier. So I went through, bought some 60.

00:38:26 Speaker 1

Some odd issues all at one time hadn't done that in.

00:38:30 Speaker 1

Probably decades. Really.

00:38:33 Speaker 1

And so I thought I will make use of this and grab a couple of issues at random out of that stack.

00:38:41 Speaker 1

So they were kind of not really picked with any rhyme or reason other than I had just recently acquired them.

00:38:49 Speaker 1

So how did you come to your book selection?

00:38:52 Speaker 3

I I noticed neither one of us has a free comic book day story.

00:38:57 Speaker 3

And mine mine is. Mine is.

00:38:59 Speaker 3

As I was saying, happy birthday and throwing up. So what's your excuse?

00:39:06 Speaker 1

About free Comic Book day well.

00:39:08 Speaker 3

It was Saturday and it is so last Saturday.

00:39:13 Speaker 3

No, no free comic books.

00:39:15 Speaker 1

No free comic books I I just and the thing was, is that, like Galactic, Greggs was touting the artist who had done the Super Dinosaur book with the guy from The Walking Dead as the writer.

00:39:30 Speaker 1

That artist from that Super Dinosaur had his.

00:39:36 Speaker 1

At the store.

00:39:37 Speaker 1

For free Comic Book Day, it's like, oh, really free comic book day, that's great and just. And I had full intentions of like, yeah, I'll, I'll. I'll head out and get some go to the shop for a free kind of work day.

00:39:51 Speaker 1

But then ultimately, it was just like.

00:39:56 Speaker 1

Just didn't go. It was like had full intentions on at least making an appearance that one of the comic shops here gets like the local 501st Star Wars Group and.

00:40:07 Speaker 1

They come out and they do the whole.

00:40:11 Speaker 1

You know, make a big deal with cosplay and all this other stuff going on at the same time so.

00:40:17 Speaker 1

It's actually, I mean a good like thing for comics, but.

00:40:23 Speaker 1

I ultimately I just question how useful like does it lead to future comic buying or is it just this one day a year people show up and then that's it.

00:40:25 Speaker 3

Is it Tom?

00:40:41 Speaker 3

You know what it does? It's it's good for the brick and mortar.

00:40:46 Speaker 3

Comic shop because they can get people in the door.

00:40:51 Speaker 3

And maybe buy something else, which is great because you know our local ones here, you know, collect tardies collectors corner had a line.

00:41:02 Speaker 3

Of people and they had events going on in sales.

00:41:06 Speaker 3

And usually it's a good time, but I do think free comic book days become just like everything else, is just a bunch of scalpers trying to grab as much as they can and then selling them on eBay for, you know, like, if not all of them. But, you know.

00:41:26 Speaker 3

There's first appearance of so and so. Or you know, they just Jack up the price. And if you didn't, if you you know, your store only had.

00:41:36 Speaker 3

Like 5 you know, here's here's the the rest of the comics that you wanted, but you know, here it's each one's $10. You know, it's a it's a crazy market. Right after freaking day, if you look on eBay, it's just like everything is superly, high-priced way.

00:41:56 Speaker 3

Way too much speculation and it's just kind of crazy. Like I could see 10 years from now if somebody's trying to look for this one free comic.

00:42:08 Speaker 3

You know how it would be rarer to get, but you know just the same books the same year.

00:42:15 Speaker 3

And a day afterwards, and they're on eBay for $10 like you.

00:42:20 Speaker 3

What? Well, it was. It's a free comic. Yeah, the store had to buy it. But you didn't. So you, you know, you turn around trying to make a huge profit out and something. You got it for free. It's just.

00:42:32 Speaker 3

Just seems so weird.

00:42:36 Speaker 3

People ruin things, you know, it's just another thing that to me is just ruined by.

00:42:46 Speaker 1

Speculators coming into the marketplace just grabbing the stuff and.

00:42:51 Speaker 1

Hoping that somebody will, you know, make a quick flip on it. And I've even seen that with, you know, some of that called true believer. I don't know if you're familiar.

00:43:03 Speaker 1

With that.

00:43:04 Speaker 1

Marvel released it's like the Dollar Comics and.

00:43:08 Speaker 1

They were just kind of putting that.

00:43:14 Speaker 1

Reprinting various issues and then reprinting them.

00:43:17 Speaker 1

For a buck.

00:43:18 Speaker 1

And as much as I like him, there's also another level of like.

00:43:23 Speaker 1

Boy, this is weird to think that they can make a comic for a dollar. Now, granted, they've reprinted and we've talked about this before, but they can reprint a comic for a buck, no ads, or very little ads.

00:43:41 Speaker 1

Color everything and it's a dollar, so it's like, why are all the other issues?

00:43:46 Speaker 1

That they're producing 499-390-9899.

00:43:53 Speaker 1

When these true believers, same amount of pages, same amount of art.

00:43:59 Speaker 1

A dollar? I'm just floored at it sometimes, but then I've also seen where those same dollar comics that are a reprint, clearly a reprint. They're definitely not listed as being like, you know, this is the third or fourth printing. This is a repro.

00:44:20 Speaker 1

I've seen them.

00:44:22 Speaker 1

In back a few racks for an exaggerated price, meaning like all of a sudden it goes like first appearance of.

00:44:33 Speaker 1

Well, we'll say with the X-23, let's say.

00:44:36 Speaker 1

And it's like, well, yeah, but it's a reprint of it. And it says clearly says true believers on the top.

00:44:43 Speaker 1

And it's like that's now $25 for that reprint. Like what it was a dollar comic that reprinted, and now it's 25 bucks.

00:44:55 Speaker 3

That's crazy.

00:44:58 Speaker 3

Yeah. And there's what's the point of that then the Marvel or DC or whoever might as well just.

00:45:04 Speaker 3

If they want to do another series, just print off each issue and sell them monthly again, you know.

00:45:11 Speaker 3

They'd probably make some money off of that.

00:45:14 Speaker 3

You know, they they do that with trade. Sometimes they collect them.

00:45:17 Speaker 3

All and put them out, but they could do monthlies of just old series. I mean, you'd have to pay the creators again at some point.

00:45:26 Speaker 3

And they should. You know, if if the company's making money off of it, they should be paid. But you know, it's price still cheaper.

00:45:35 Speaker 3

And of course I don't have the numbers here. Maybe it isn't worth it, but possibilities. Possibilities.

00:45:38 Speaker 1

Yeah. Well, they used to with Marvel. That was a a thing for quite a long time where they would reprint the previous things because I remember I've got a nearly complete run like it was like Marvel, Marvel Tales. I think it was that reprinted the Spiderman issues.

00:45:58 Speaker 1

And then there was Americas or the world's greatest comics.

00:46:03 Speaker 1

And that reprinted Fantastic Four and that's the one I got the bulk of that run, if not all.

00:46:08 Speaker 3

They had classic X-Men.

00:46:11 Speaker 1

Yeah, classic X-Men. And we printed all.

00:46:13 Speaker 1

The like the.

00:46:14 Speaker 1

Burn and Cockram era of X-Men. So I mean they were doing those on the regular, you know, I was like, hey, if you missed the first time here you go that would be great to make it a little bit more accessible and get people.

00:46:28 Speaker 1

Back into buying monthly issues.

00:46:30 Speaker 1

Because one of the things and this is where I do like the dollar comics.

00:46:37 Speaker 1

Is that I am more willing to experiment on the dollar comic.

00:46:44 Speaker 1

Then on you know a four or five dollar comic. It's kind of like I don't see.

00:46:54 Speaker 1

You know that this story progresses or it draws me in with such a.

00:46:59 Speaker 1

High level that I can feel free to. OK, I'll go buy the rest of these things at $7.00 a pop. It's like, no, I'm not going to. I'm just going to, you know, if it's a dollar. Certainly I'll buy the whole run, but not for I won't buy a single issue. If it's like 7 bucks.

00:47:19 Speaker 1

It's not worth it from the galactic gregs that I would never have bought, but because this isn't the dollar bin. Yeah, why not? I'll give it.

00:47:26 Speaker 3

A try right for a buck. It that to me is a sweet.

00:47:31 Speaker 3

A comic for a book.

00:47:33 Speaker 3

Even if.

00:47:34 Speaker 3

I won't like it because maybe I will, but for a book I'll take the risk.

00:47:39 Speaker 1

That's very impulse driven and that's something I think current comics.

00:47:46 Speaker 1

You know, and with people and the other aspect of it, and I think this is something that producer Tony even mentioned at one point was creative teams. Flip flop too much.

00:47:58 Speaker 1

And someone gets pulled from a.

00:48:00 Speaker 1

Book way too early.

00:48:02 Speaker 1

And so their their story arc isn't done. And so if you got yourself committed every month to getting these things as they come out, all of a sudden.

00:48:11 Speaker 1

Everything changes on you. It's like ohh crap I'm stuck. Whereas you could wait.

00:48:17 Speaker 1

Until it's either in trade.

00:48:19 Speaker 1

Get it that?

00:48:19 Speaker 1

Way or wait until that run is done and then find out whether or not it was worth it and.

00:48:26 Speaker 1

Then go back and.

00:48:27 Speaker 1

Get those issues if I were.

00:48:29 Speaker 1

To have known that, let's say, Justice League International, I remember that like the artist also, and it switched out part way through it, it's like crap. I would have stopped that way earlier, but we were buying things in advance and didn't know that the creative team had jumped on it and was.

00:48:46 Speaker 1

Like Oh well.

00:48:48 Speaker 1

Screw this.

00:48:49 Speaker 3

That's right.

00:48:50 Speaker 3

No, I do remember last time the one and done.

00:48:56 Speaker 3

I got. I think it was Promethea I tried remember the other one that I didn't try but I did recently at A at a dollar bin pick up a bunch of promethea like after one but before like the top first ten or something. So I I do look forward.

00:49:16 Speaker 3

Reading those some more for this time I picked up an issue, one that I heard was pretty good.

00:49:26 Speaker 3

And it was by Mark Wade. And so I picked up Batman, Superman, World's finest. This one for some reason has the Jerry Seinfeld on the cover steel or driving the Batmobile with coffee?

00:49:38 Speaker 3

You know that TV show he does, but and then the second issue, I just grabbed a part one of a.

00:49:47 Speaker 3

Of a storyline and it was from.

00:49:52 Speaker 3

Another DC book, this time from Rebirth, Green Arrow. It's number six. Sins of the mother part one. And these were dollar bin fines. Actually, I think I picked the green arrow up to see if I could get it signed. When I go next Saturday.

00:50:14 Speaker 3

To meet Arrow, Steven Amal.

00:50:19 Speaker 3

Or amel.

00:50:22 Speaker 3

With my sons and that'll be fun. Don't get me started on May and graduation and.

00:50:30 Speaker 3

All that stuff, it's.

00:50:32 Speaker 3

Been it's going to be crazy month and going to go fast. It already is. You know, I think my body shut down last weekend and just said hey, slow down and happy birthday.

00:50:47 Speaker 3

Oh, so those are the two I picked. I know they're DC oriented, but next time I'll just do some Marvel ones. You know, I'll balance it out. Don't you worry listeners.

00:50:56 Speaker 1

The two books I grabbed, I grabbed completely, like I said randomly, so they are in the middle of the series in one and then the final issue I was like, well, that kind of crap. But one is Talos from Image Comics with micro Wingos art and he assisted with the story.

00:51:16 Speaker 1

And then the other is Ultra Mega, which is a Kaiju kind of like.

00:51:21 Speaker 1

Very grim dark version of Ultraman and it was issue 4. They were all like prestige issues, so issue 4 of Ultra Mega was the final volume one, so it does leave it.

00:51:34 Speaker 1

At a cliffhanger? Well, but.

00:51:37 Speaker 1

Yeah. Previously I did that. Oh, man, the wolf.

00:51:41 Speaker 1

Boy or wolf man, or whatever the astounding man.

00:51:44 Speaker 3

Wolves wolfman.

00:51:46 Speaker 1

And then, and oddly enough, the guy who did the Super Dinosaur also did the art on that one too.

00:51:51 Speaker 3

Super transome.

00:51:52 Speaker 1

Eclectic gregs for free comic book day books.

00:51:55 Speaker 3

What company does that one?

00:51:58 Speaker 1

OK, with Taylor. So I was obviously image, but I guess at some point it went to Gorilla press for a couple of issues and then tell that company folded and then it went back to the image. So there was like a 10 issue run then several one.

00:52:11 Speaker 1

Shots after that.

00:52:12 Speaker 1

Unfortunately, Michael Wingo passed away at some point.

00:52:16 Speaker 1

And never did get to complete like what they were hoping to do. So a lot of those one shots were done by guest artists.

00:52:24 Speaker 1

Which is a little, you know, like that's terribly unfortunate. Way too early, but I loved micro windows. Work on the Fantastic Four. One of the few times I really enjoyed the.

00:52:34 Speaker 1

Fan four books.

00:52:36 Speaker 1

That one had Mark Wade, who wrote your.

00:52:40 Speaker 1

Your world's finest. Did that run on Fantastic Four? Nice. But Taylors was by image and this Ultra Mega technically is by image, but it's through their Skybound.

00:52:54 Speaker 1

Imprint love giant monsters always have you know from the old Godzilla to Gamera who is a good turtle. He is a friend to all girls and boys. Ultraman loved Ultraman as well. You know any of those giant battling robots? The Shogun Warriors that came through.

00:53:11 Speaker 1

So Ultra Mega by James Herron.

00:53:15 Speaker 1

He created it. He wrote it, and he drew it has a very, very dark and interesting art style. The colors are amazing, very, very bleak. It has a very heavy metal kind of feel to it, a lot of.

00:53:34 Speaker 1

Paul, I think the guys name was like Paul Pope or something like that. Does that sound right?

00:53:41 Speaker 1

Feel like a heavy, heavy inks. Little bit of grittiness, a little bit of grime and you feel a little dirty looking at it, kind of a thing where it just has that visceral quality of it. But spoiler alerts on both what was good was kind of diving into the middle of it.

00:54:00 Speaker 1

And that was probably the best experience of it all. Is like when we were talking with Kevin several episodes back.

00:54:08 Speaker 1

Of Thunder kicking fame he talked about, he just bought some comics and kind of picking things up and I got to thinking like, what would it be like to just buy a book midstream? Not starting at issue one, but buying something at midstream.

00:54:28 Speaker 1

And that's where it was kind of like, hmm.

00:54:33 Speaker 1

Let's just go ahead and.

00:54:36 Speaker 1

By a comic.

00:54:38 Speaker 1

In the middle of a run.

00:54:40 Speaker 1

And justice read it and see.

00:54:43 Speaker 1

If I can pick it up wherever it it is, you know, if I can follow along and ultimately would I read anymore or would I have called it quits? So this was kind of interesting with jumping at #6 and #4 number six with Talos and #4 Ultra Mega.

00:55:02 Speaker 3

Now it says.

00:55:03 Speaker 3

On our website, you did the astounding wolf man.

00:55:06 Speaker 3

And fatal.

00:55:08 Speaker 1

Ohh yeah yeah. Ohh man that was a good one too. Yeah, cause that was. Yeah, that was the Ed Brubaker. Sean Phillips murder. Mystery Ish, but mostly like a Lulu.

00:55:22 Speaker 1

Component as well. It was a fantastic series. Reading all of those, so that was not a one and done. That was a one and some fun and we just kept on reading.

00:55:25 Speaker 1

Didn't wind.

00:55:33 Speaker 3

Yeah, and I did DC's judge tread and Abcs Prometheus, so.

00:55:39 Speaker 3

And I do remember not really liking that judge tread either. The art and the story. I think we're both pretty mediocre. And I liked Prometheus surprisingly and wanted to read more and eventually I have gotten them. So that's what we did last time. This time I didn't straight far from DC at all.

00:56:00 Speaker 1

Yeah, I'll, I'll jump into tailors real quick. I've seen micro Wingo cover interiors. Brilliant because it's 6.

00:56:09 Speaker 3

Yeah. We haven't talked about him that much.

00:56:12 Speaker 1

What's that?

00:56:12 Speaker 3

We haven't talked about him too much, but.

00:56:14 Speaker 1

No underrated but fantastic stuff. And when he was at the top of his game he was a a heavy hitter.

00:56:23 Speaker 3

Yeah, and he said with his and.

00:56:23 Speaker 3

A ton of.

00:56:26 Speaker 3

It's just each panel. It's got so much energy to it.

00:56:31 Speaker 1

Yeah, very cartoon, but not like overly cartoon. I mean, he can.

00:56:39 Speaker 1

But what was good about this is.

00:56:43 Speaker 1

One, Talos feels like somebody's basically drawing their role-playing game session. I can surmise the whole thing. It feels like I'm reading somebody who was like going. That was a great game last night. I'm going to now make that into a comment.

00:57:05 Speaker 1

Because it is very quest driven, it's very it's a fantasy world. The basics of it is that there's these two characters 1A young.

00:57:14 Speaker 1

Kid. And he's got a tiger companion.

00:57:19 Speaker 1

Anthropomorphic tiger, I should say and.

00:57:24 Speaker 1

You know, they team up with these other people along the way. A pirate, a female pirate, a fox thief and an elf male. That kind of joined them along the way in classic.

00:57:40 Speaker 1

Gaming fashion. They meet up with a talking dragon, but in order to kind of make it feel even more like this is somebody's role-playing game as opposed to a like deep seated Tolkien esque philosophical story.

00:57:58 Speaker 1

The Dragons, named Brad, and he's basically like a surfer dude who?

00:58:07 Speaker 1

He talks like a surfer guy and it is an interesting take on kind of this dragon and the world of Dragons. But sorry, issue six starts off with the the tiger guy in pretty much at deaths door.

00:58:25 Speaker 1

And they have to, after having a fight that must have wrapped up in issue.

00:58:28 Speaker 1

Live and then they dive right into trying to bring them to life or bring them back from the edge of death and they introduce or reintroduce in these characters that were from previous issues. So there's, you know, some high stakes. There's a sense of destiny. There's a quest. There is a goal and they.

00:58:48 Speaker 1

They could talk.

00:58:48 Speaker 1

About an amulet.

00:58:49 Speaker 1

Is like the key component, but the arts is great. The colors are fantastic. Story is a lot of fun. Paul mounts the famous colorist, does the coloring for the book brilliant work overall. The character art is great, very consistent.

00:59:06 Speaker 1

Story is fairly straightforward.

00:59:10 Speaker 1

There are some moments of like what is going on here because like the main villain.

00:59:17 Speaker 1

Uh, looks as if he just stepped out of a modern comic or modern time because he's got like Doc Martins and blue jeans.

00:59:27 Speaker 1

And it's like, what? So maybe there's something that is in the story that makes more sense in the previous issues, but they don't explain how or why.

00:59:36 Speaker 1

This kid who's the main villain is Dressler. He is, but it does end on a happy note in that the tiger dude spoilers after this came out in 1999. The tiger dude makes it at the end of the issue, so there's a lot of things that that leads to. There's a lot of things that hinted at.

00:59:57 Speaker 1

The the problem was that this is during the era when they've obviously done away and I don't know if the image really ever did have ads for anything other than their own books.

01:00:08 Speaker 1

But the comic itself is kind of short, and then there's two pages of a letters come at pretty sizable type. And it's like, wow.

01:00:18 Speaker 1

Fill, fill, fill that up. But then there's 123.

01:00:24 Speaker 1

456788 pages of this book is dedicated to cross selling other image titles. That's a lot of books, but you know, originally this thing back in the day retailed for a whopping $2.50 no ads outside of in-house, as they call it in house ads.

01:00:46 Speaker 1

To promote their own goods. But I I honestly, I liked it. I liked the fantasy it it's a good departure from the classic comic book, the superhero comics.

01:00:58 Speaker 1

It had micro wingos art.

01:01:01 Speaker 1

I'll I picked up several of these issues. I didn't get the full run at the store, but I did get like issues like 678 and nine. I think it ran to 10 issues and then that was it of the original run.

01:01:13 Speaker 1

But I got like 678 and 9:00 so I got like.

01:01:15 Speaker 1

Four issues of it or something like that.

01:01:19 Speaker 1

From Galactic Gregs comics, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. I would recommend Talos to anybody who likes fantasy with it's high fantasy. There's a lot of magic, a lot of magical creatures.

01:01:32 Speaker 1

But there's also.

01:01:33 Speaker 1

A bit of humor to it as well.

01:01:35 Speaker 1

And a lot.

01:01:36 Speaker 1

Of anthropomorphic creatures. In fact, like this Toad squadron, are told as like Frog soldiers are the kind of the cannon fodder of the book, as well as.

01:01:48 Speaker 1

There's like a turtle. That's the main wizard who's kind of the Yoda that told what was happening or what the destiny was to be so Talos. It did have a website, actually had two websites, and neither of those are working now. So can you go back to take a look?

01:02:09 Speaker 1

See what happened to.

01:02:11 Speaker 1

What was on the?

01:02:11 Speaker 1

Site what they were promoting or.

01:02:13 Speaker 1

Anything, it's just gone.

01:02:15 Speaker 1

So a little disappointed. I was kind of hoping but they promoted the heck out of the website cause in 1999 that was the thing to do. Websites were the rage. You had to have a.

01:02:26 Speaker 3

Website To the one and done, I'll pick one. I'm going to pick my world's finest Batman, Superman. Mark Wade.

01:02:37 Speaker 3

Dan Mora is the artist.

01:02:41 Speaker 3

And Tamara Bond villain, which is a great name.

01:02:48 Speaker 3

Did the colors.

01:02:50 Speaker 3

Aditya Bidi harded, the letters and Paul Hemsky is the editor. This is some from 2022 May of 2022.

01:03:04 Speaker 3

Mark Wade, of course. Who did some book called Kingdom Come.

01:03:13 Speaker 1

Never heard of that title any good?

01:03:13 Speaker 3

Yeah, I never. I never did either. I don't really wanna talk about this book. We've never heard. So, but he did some other stuff. I like his flash that he did way back when. I've always kind of been a fan of his.

01:03:20 Speaker 2

Keep on moving on.

01:03:29 Speaker 3

He's always been in tune with the DC Universe a bit, and I like his style in the past, so I thought and also I I read some reviews on this series and that said this is his finest work ever.

01:03:44 Speaker 3

So I snagged up a couple issues of this. I've only read the first issue.

01:03:50 Speaker 3

And thought I'd give it a try.

01:03:54 Speaker 3

There's a bunch of variant covers and I picked the Jerry Seinfeld one for some reason.

01:04:00 Speaker 3

I I I do like the show that he's on and stuff like that. But anyway, the comic itself is kind of.

01:04:09 Speaker 3

Takes me back to the 80s, maybe early 90s. It's basically it flashes back and forth.

01:04:16 Speaker 3

Through Superman and Batman's friendship and how it built, I do like Mark wades, witty banter. His Robin is hilarious. You know? You see old villains like you see Poison Ivy, just trying to take over Metropolis. And yeah, there's an ultimate plan and stuff like that. But you know, it's just.

01:04:37 Speaker 3

Hey, I'm going to go stop this film.

01:04:38 Speaker 3

Then, and here's Batman and Robin and Superman. And then Metallo shows up and you're thinking these are classic villains. The art is really good. Dan Mora, I don't know a lot about.

01:04:51 Speaker 1

He did clouds.

01:04:52 Speaker 3

He did, Klaus. He did, didn't he? Ohh yeah.

01:04:56 Speaker 1

That might also, and it all comes together and makes sense.

01:04:59 Speaker 3

Does see and his art was cool with Graham Morrison and his art.

01:05:04 Speaker 3

Is still cool.

01:05:06 Speaker 3

With Mark Wade, I like his style.

01:05:10 Speaker 3

The coloring is great too. This basic storyline is, you know, there's a group of villains that must be starting to try something against Superman and Batman and Robin show up.

01:05:24 Speaker 3

I'm still trying to figure out which Robin it is. He's got long pants.

01:05:31 Speaker 3

It I'm not sure. I think it's **** Grayson.

01:05:35 Speaker 3

But it also could be Tim Drake.

01:05:38 Speaker 3

So I haven't. I haven't figured that out yet.

01:05:42 Speaker 3

But Metello shows up in Poison Ivy and Metallo does something while Poison Ivy is distracting Batman and Robin, he douses Superman with a bunch of little chunks of red kryptonite.

01:05:55 Speaker 3

And each each little chunk of red kryptonite does something different, so Superman's just like super flipping out and just a whole bunch of bunch of variety of things or.

01:06:08 Speaker 3

Or happening to him, you know, during the flashback, they fight the Penguin.

01:06:14 Speaker 3

And it's a really cool scene, you know? It's just nice, classic villains and.

01:06:21 Speaker 3

You kind of see why Superman and Batman are friends and how they save each other's lives, and there's there's this villain.

01:06:30 Speaker 3

Hidden in the shadows that must be running things. But you know Superman's freaking out. His powers are freaking out. You know, every every few minutes or or an hour or you know, something else happens to them like another red kryptonite starts taking over and.

01:06:47 Speaker 3

He turns into actual steel for a little bit and you know it's it's so unpredictable and what's great is Mark Wade doesn't give any hints or anything about what's going to happen each turn of the page is is a surprise. Yeah. Like suddenly.

01:07:07 Speaker 3

You know you're halfway through the book and and Batman calls somebody, but not on a telephone. You know, he doesn't go to the pay phone and call Doctor Faye.

01:07:15 Speaker 3

He actually uses the communicator in his helmet.

01:07:19 Speaker 3

You know.

01:07:20 Speaker 1

That's a good callback.

01:07:21 Speaker 3

Yeah, that's from episode one of the podcast.

01:07:25 Speaker 3

And suddenly you turned the page in the original Doom Patrol shows up.

01:07:30 Speaker 3

You know, like read afar, Elastic Girl, robot man and.

01:07:39 Speaker 3

What's the electrical guys name? I wanted to say Rebus, but that's that's the second version of it, negative man.

01:07:44 Speaker 1

Negative Rand.

01:07:47 Speaker 3

And you know, they show up and try and help because Batman has a plan, of course, to get him back to Doctor Niles Calder, who runs the the Doom Patrol, to try and help Superman out. It's just a nice.

01:08:05 Speaker 3

DC oriented.

01:08:08 Speaker 3

Nothing but quality story. You know, it's not. You don't think anything's going to suddenly change the world or change the universe, but it's a solid superhero story, and I I.

01:08:22 Speaker 3

Want to know what's happening next? This is my favorite one and done. We've done. I am going to buy this series. There's rumor that he's going to do a teen Titans and some other one. It's going to be world's finest teen Titans and then world's finest. Something else. And yeah, I'm going to grab those two.

01:08:41 Speaker 3

Because if Mark wades getting his own corner of the universe.

01:08:46 Speaker 3

Just going to tell solid superhero stories. I'm going to.

01:08:49 Speaker 3

Put my money where my mouth is and just, you know, tell DC that I approve of this message.

01:08:57 Speaker 1

I was kind of wondering about that title because it's like I've only heard good things about it and it feels like.

01:09:02 Speaker 1

A classic throwback to.

01:09:06 Speaker 1

What comics used to be? You know, there were just meant.

01:09:09 Speaker 1

To be the the the.

01:09:11 Speaker 1

Piercing of them that the story advances like when you read an issue, there's a full story in that single issue. It's not.

01:09:22 Speaker 1

You know, like, hey, let's drag this bend this style over 10 issues. It's like, Nope, we can do it all in one and call that good. And it's like, yeah, yeah, that was how they used to do it. They, you know, packed a lot more story in there.

01:09:40 Speaker 1

And a lot less.

01:09:44 Speaker 1

You know, just padding and dialogue for the sake of dialogue, but not advancing the plot dialogue.

01:09:52 Speaker 1

It was just.

01:09:53 Speaker 3

Yeah. And and.

01:09:54 Speaker 3

When it I say it's like a throwback, it's it's still a modern story, like it still reads new, but it does have reminiscent of the old stories, enough to, you know, to make this old 52 year old.

01:10:14 Speaker 3

Happy while still providing something new. I mean, he didn't. You know, it wasn't groundbreaking that he, you know, had these to his friends or anything in there that he did.

01:10:25 Speaker 3

You know it didn't.

01:10:27 Speaker 3

He's not, you know, changing the definition of superhero. He's just telling a good hero story, which is.

01:10:36 Speaker 3

Lost nowadays.

01:10:38 Speaker 1

Good to see Batman and Superman kind of taking the lead and.

01:10:44 Speaker 1

Kind of harkening back, it sounds like to some of the the classic tropes of hey, Red Kryptonite was a thing. Remember strange things happened and you know, some of the classic villains being just classic villains. It wasn't like.

01:10:58 Speaker 1

Hey, guess what?

01:10:58 Speaker 1

The jokers on another murderous rampage, and we're going to focus on that.

01:11:03 Speaker 1

The Batman might show up for two panels, all right.

01:11:06 Speaker 1

And it's like, Nope, this is just sounds like it's a great, great, straightforward comic.

01:11:11 Speaker 1

Chuck up another one for the wins column.

01:11:14 Speaker 1

Going back to Ultra Mega on my part, James Herron, like I said, David Stewart did the color Stewart. It does have a previously so that even though I'm reading issue 4 and even Taylor's did that a little.

01:11:30 Speaker 1

Bit that had like you know.

01:11:32 Speaker 1

A quick synopsis to kind of keep you a little bit up to speed.

01:11:36 Speaker 1

But oddly enough, there's this editor Sean Michael went something like that Mackey Wintz as a word choice here. It's not a spelling error. It was like there's a line here. Says are forced to fight for their lives in the Kaiju Coliseum.

01:11:57 Speaker 1

They've been lives.

01:11:59 Speaker 1

Or yeah, but as this fight for their life, that's not grammatically correct. I litter this book clearly is, you know, homage to Ultraman. But if Ultraman was done by Quentin Tarantino on acid.

01:12:03 Speaker 3

Editing, editing.

01:12:19 Speaker 1

A lot of.

01:12:19 Speaker 1

F bombs a lot of just gore.

01:12:25 Speaker 1

And a lot of very disturbing, you know, like the creatures and weirdness. And it's even hard to describe. The panel layouts are every page is handled completely different.

01:12:39 Speaker 1

Sometimes there's panels, sometimes there's just rectangles, sometimes there's polygons, sometimes yeah, sometimes it's just as random. Sometimes when you touch the feelings too much. So it's just it's really like, exuberant and hyper.

01:12:57 Speaker 1

Amount of like when you're reading it, it is it. It takes a lot out of you. There's a lot of grizzly sequences, but I I don't know what preceded it, but what happens in this book is.

01:13:11 Speaker 1

Like when you really think about what would happen if monsters like giant monsters really existed.

01:13:20 Speaker 1

And that these world of these monsters are, you know, crashing into ours.

01:13:26 Speaker 1

What would it really be like? Would they be kind of this wholesome gamma kind of a setting, or would there be more disturbing elements?

01:13:36 Speaker 1

And then with Ultraman, I don't know how familiar you are with Ultraman, but you know the Ultraman is this creature from distant star and a human crashes his plane into him, and Ultraman sacrifices himself because.

01:13:54 Speaker 1

To keep this human alive. And so that's why that's his super secret origin and how he transforms into Ultraman. So he starts off as.

01:14:05 Speaker 1

Regular hero and then for three minutes he can turn into Ultraman.

01:14:11 Speaker 1

And it's really, I mean, it's a fun premise. It kind of helps give them a limitation, puts a little bit of a, we'll say panic slash, you know energy.

01:14:23 Speaker 1

The and like, oh, he's only got 3 minutes. The chest light flashes when it's getting shorter and shorter amount of time, so it's really a fun premise. This takes that concept of what would happen if you merged yourself with an alien being and the merging process is really kind of little to say, grotesque. In this book. Holy crap.

01:14:43 Speaker 1

It's fun. Definitely not for the younger listeners. I'm just saying, but the younger it's not meant for them, but.

01:14:52 Speaker 3

We have younger listeners.

01:14:54 Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah. They just wanna, you know, it's like this. Listen to our podcast might be considered a cautionary tale.

01:15:03 Speaker 1

I don't want to be like them when.

01:15:04 Speaker 1

I grow up. It's like.

01:15:07 Speaker 3

Learn your lessons.

01:15:08 Speaker 1

I don't want to be grumpy. I don't want to be so mean and just.

01:15:14 Speaker 1

You know, have a. Do they have to be?

01:15:14 Speaker 2

They're depressing.

01:15:18 Speaker 1

Cynical all the time.

01:15:21 Speaker 1

But I mean the colors are beautiful in this book. The illustration is phenomenal. The creature design is great. There's a lot of just weird aspects, but I caught on to it pretty quick. You know, I understood where they're going, but yeah, there's a whole sequence of.

01:15:38 Speaker 1

The main character and this guy who's more or less a hide you with just a giant eyeball for a head and the optic nerve is the neck and then it's just this weird loopy body.

01:15:50 Speaker 1

They both just barely escaped, but in doing so they are in a disastrous state and trails will say are strewn about. They're both dying and the only way that they can make it is if they merge and the merging process.

01:16:08 Speaker 1

Is pretty horrific. It is a Geiger Esque creation and then that's how this particular Ultra Mega character comes into being.

01:16:19 Speaker 1

And it is a brilliant classic of like the pacing of, you know, most Kaiju movies.

01:16:30 Speaker 1

Is, you know, the hero comes in at the very end pretty much and.

01:16:36 Speaker 1

Is outnumbered, gets beat up and then somehow manages to pull it off at the end and saves the universe.

01:16:44 Speaker 1

It does end with them.

01:16:46 Speaker 1

The original Ultra Mega coming back and giving a word of warning and so volume one ends on a cliffhanger. Brilliant. Enjoyed it and I am going to have to go out and either the the one thing and this is something that's a little tricky. I like supporting people that you know, make books like this. I have no problems.

01:17:07 Speaker 1

And that.

01:17:07 Speaker 1

Is $8 an issue? They are somewhat in what used to be called prestige format, but it's $8 in it.

01:17:16 Speaker 1

There's four of them, so simple maths. Is this about 32 bucks? No big deal.

01:17:21 Speaker 1

You go to images website, they did collect them all into one trade with some bonus features and you can get that trade for $20.

01:17:30 Speaker 1

So it's like, well, crap, what do I do with this single issue I have? You know, I'll probably just go out and get the trade and get all the extra bonus features, do a long way for.

01:17:41 Speaker 1

$12.00 keeper.

01:17:43 Speaker 3

Oh yeah, probably more than.

01:17:44 Speaker 1

Highly recommend it. Suggest people go ahead and.

01:17:48 Speaker 1

That are into kite you at all and want a very, very different take on it. It is like if you think Power Rangers is one thing, this is the exact opposite of Power Rangers on every front.

01:18:00 Speaker 3

I'm up next.

01:18:02 Speaker 3

Yes, Sir. Sins of the mother, green arrow rebirth #6.

01:18:11 Speaker 3

I've I've liked Green arrow. I like green arrow Black Canary, as I've said in the past.

01:18:18 Speaker 3

So but this is my first take of the new rebirth.

01:18:25 Speaker 3

It's by Benjamin Percy. He did the story Stephen Byrne did the art and the color, and Nate Picos of Blambot did the lettering.

01:18:35 Speaker 3

And let's see. Andy Curry did the as her about I hadn't heard that name in a long time. We thought the cover was cool as green arrow shooting off to the left and shadow.

01:18:38 Speaker 1

Blambot fonts.

01:18:51 Speaker 3

One of the other arrow characters shooting off into the reader.

01:18:57 Speaker 3

So that was pretty cool. The art was pretty good. There was some questionable panels, I think he.

01:19:06 Speaker 3

Uh, he draws people a little stout. There's one of the characters, one of the main characters is a teenager. He draws her good. But compared to the people, the adults around, she just seems a little off.

01:19:26 Speaker 3

Like she's a little cartoony and they're not.

01:19:30 Speaker 3

Almost at times, I don't think that's really what he's trying to do, but in my head that's kind of what it it looks like. Apparently Oliver Queen has a half sister.

01:19:43 Speaker 3

And I'm still trying to figure out the details of that. She is, of course, good at archery as well. She's working with Allie to try and.

01:19:54 Speaker 3

Takedown this big, old kind of like the hand, kind of like Raja Ghoul's assassins. They're called shoot. I don't remember what they're called, but they're called something, right? And she's she claims to be.

01:20:14 Speaker 3

Allie's new partner, and also her half sister.

01:20:19 Speaker 3

Her mom is shadow.

01:20:23 Speaker 3

Which is interesting because does that make shadow well? No. It's half sister. Oh, they have the same father. That's what it is. I've just figured it out.

01:20:35 Speaker 3

So Ali's father and shadow had this.

01:20:40 Speaker 3

And of course, Ali had.

01:20:43 Speaker 3

Parents that aren't around anymore, I think.

01:20:47 Speaker 3

I don't know mixing up with the show now, but you know he's training her.

01:20:52 Speaker 3

To be a spy, a spy? Ish superhero.

01:20:57 Speaker 3

And shadows hunting her down to try and and assassinate them. You know, it's kind of kind of remind me of remind me of the Shang Chi movie. She enters the ring in some fights to try.

01:21:11 Speaker 3

And show people how much of A fighter she is. She Dukes it out with this this group and gets in after killing this guy in the ring. Her name is Amiko. She's trying to find her mom's shadow.

01:21:31 Speaker 3

And that's pretty much the whole story. You know, it's interesting. I do have actually Part 2 and three probably will read it, but just reading number six, there wasn't really enough for me to.

01:21:48 Speaker 3

Say, oh, I should rush out and get the next issue. It seemed kind of like they're trying to make green arrow into the TV show. Green arrow like they're bringing the kind of elements of that Oliver Queen into this Oliver Queen.

01:22:08 Speaker 3

And I don't think that was really necessary. Maybe it maybe it is to modernize Oliver Queen a little bit and not make him.

01:22:17 Speaker 3

Quite the whiny liberal that he was, I don't know. I'm I'm I'm mixed on this.

01:22:23 Speaker 3

One, I would say my instinct is that this is a one and done officially and just.

01:22:34 Speaker 3

It was OK.

01:22:36 Speaker 3

But I I think I was expecting something a little more.

01:22:40 Speaker 3

Different than The CW Green Arrow, and that's all I got was the.

01:22:44 Speaker 3

CW Green arrow.

01:22:46 Speaker 1

Yeah, I often wonder, like, you know, kind of going back to what I was saying about being a new comic.

01:22:52 Speaker 1

Book buyer.

01:22:54 Speaker 1

If I were to just to buy something, pick something up, could I just dive right into it or?

01:23:01 Speaker 1

Would I be like hard pressed to go like this isn't for me, I just can't.

01:23:07 Speaker 1

I can't follow the story. I can't figure out where.

01:23:09 Speaker 1

I'm supposed to be going from.

01:23:10 Speaker 1

Here any of that stuff, but then there's also that level of, hey, I just saw this really cool movie or this TV show. Is there anything more about this character?

01:23:22 Speaker 1

And you pick up a.

01:23:24 Speaker 1

Book and you're like, wait a minute.

01:23:28 Speaker 1

You know, like, you know, when Iron Man movies were crazy popular, The Avengers movies were insane. That was when Iron Man was not Tony Stark, but that I think RiRi will, Wilson Williams or whatever her name is.

01:23:46 Speaker 1

Was Iron Man and it's like, Can you imagine being a new collector going like, man, this Iron Man character is pretty cool. I kind of want to see if he's got ohh. He got comic books. I'll get those. And then you pick them up and it's like.

01:24:00 Speaker 1

Tony Stark is not in there. I think. If anything, it's like there's a hologram of him or something.

01:24:05 Speaker 3

Right. Is he dead?

01:24:07 Speaker 1

Yeah, I think he was dead at the time and he had uploaded his consciousness and he became like the suit. He was kind of in this suit, this. This makes no and the same with Thor. I think at that time, Jane Foster.

01:24:25 Speaker 1

Was Thor and.

01:24:28 Speaker 1

You know, it's like mercy. None of these comics that I'm like I.

01:24:33 Speaker 1

Want to go see?

01:24:35 Speaker 1

You know, I saw the movie. Now I want to go see the comic and it's like, Nope, that's not the character you saw up on the screen. Nope.

01:24:42 Speaker 1

So there are times where you do want to.

01:24:45 Speaker 1

Them to align you do want them to kind of.

01:24:49 Speaker 1

You know, align themselves more effectively for new readers, but then it's really like which one gives way to which one.

01:24:57 Speaker 3

You want familiarity.

01:25:01 Speaker 3

But you just don't want copycats or I don't, anyway, but I don't know.

01:25:06 Speaker 3

Yeah, not too bad. OK, so I had two. Well, no, I had one.

01:25:11 Speaker 3

One and done and one great you had.

01:25:14 Speaker 1

21 and guns and both.

01:25:17 Speaker 1

Of them are phenomenal. Wow.

01:25:19 Speaker 3

Well, if you.

01:25:21 Speaker 3

Have any comics you want us to read? Any series you want us to try? One and done so let us know.

01:25:29 Speaker 3

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01:25:50 Speaker 3

Anymore, until we get some more followers. So join us there or be square. I don't, I don't know. Support the show. We have a support link on our web page.

01:26:05 Speaker 3

By supporting the show, you help us get new microphones and some other equipment and not to our Kickstarter or.

01:26:15 Speaker 3

What did my what did producer Tony call it? Oh addict, Kickstarter addict, yeah.

01:26:23 Speaker 3

So thank thank you, producer.

01:26:26 Speaker 3

Tony uh, let's see. Thanks producer Tony Co hosts Matt 2.0. Kevin and Matt 10.0.

01:26:36 Speaker 3

Four, and This is why I love comics. I'm Andy.

01:26:40 Speaker 1

Your mic.

01:26:41 Speaker 3

And thanks to Thunder chicken for the tunes, let's go check them out here and you go check them out on Spotify. There's a link in the show notes. Give them some love.

01:27:02 Speaker 4

And your supple chest is on me and your skin melts around me, and your face is in between me and intimacy. And I would give you everything.

01:27:22 Speaker 4

If I own.

01:27:24 Speaker 4

Everything as your tears down all might slow down.

01:27:33 Speaker 1

Uh oh.

01:27:35 Speaker 1

Lose you.

01:27:36 Speaker 3

I'm back.

01:27:38 Speaker 1

OK, I thought you were saying. Happy birthday Andy again.

01:27:42 Speaker 1

And then make it run.

01:27:43 Speaker 3

I got to do the sound effects for that.

01:27:45 Speaker 4

I mean birthday Andy.

01:27:50 Speaker 3

That'll be the intro for the next episode. It'll be me throwing up with the happy birthday Jingle in the background.

01:27:59 Speaker 1

It's my party. I can vomit if I want to.